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* The EU's 'SECRET' Brexit Negotiation EXPOSED 🙄

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Theproblemis Themps
You would think that the UK didn't exist prior to joining the EU...
The Sun King
The Sun King Pred uro
UK MP's fighting to remain in the EU are traitors to the will of the people. Democracy is being destroyed and the validity of Parliament is being trashed. The people voted to leave and that was supposed to happen on the 29th March, deal or no deal if that doesn't happen The group of people calling themselves the representatives of the people are liars and engaged in coup against the British people. The people don't care about a deal, the priority is to get out as agreed years ago. Nobody believes that it takes 3 years to leave. We simply leave as agreed 29th March, if we don't...
Andres Burkert
Andres Burkert Pred 2 urami
It looks like UK steps down behind Turkey, but there are standing South Korea and Canada in front. The first exit now, UK will be the last then. UK I'm sorry for you.
Ashish Gupta
Ashish Gupta Pred 4 urami
TIL cgpgrey is Irish
Erik Kalkoken
Erik Kalkoken Pred 4 urami
Here is an idea: Scrap the "red lines" along with Mrs May and agree to a Norwegian style relationship. That would prevent economic disaster and the territorial integrity of the UK.
eugenekaufmann1
eugenekaufmann1 Pred 4 urami
slvid.net/video/video--IL2XwSkFJQ.html
Jaroslaw Wolak
Jaroslaw Wolak Pred 4 urami
Video: BREXIT and the future of Britain. With Vernon B
Damian Curie
Damian Curie Pred 4 urami
whether you voted leave or remain and whatever the outcome of Brexit may be I know one thing that is going to happen ... there is going to be a political blood bath massacre of politicians in the next general elections
P O
P O Pred 4 urami
Stay revoked article 50 now and Brexiters stop your constant moaning
Theproblemis Themps
Brexiteers aren't the ones who are moaning, it is the remainers who are always moaning and marching because they cannot accept that the vote went against them. Well too bad!
be bo
be bo Pred 5 urami
In other word the EU is like the mafia pay up or else.
VSTATHOPOULOS
VSTATHOPOULOS Pred 5 urami
3:10 you meant to say Europol and not Interpol! Now I have doubts about the rest of the info on this video
Pink Freud
Pink Freud Pred 6 urami
Oh yes. Let's completely bypass the sectarian peace treaty of Northern Ireland and the fact that the DUP are influencing deal refusals so as to force a "no deal" in order to unhook Northern Ireland from the peace treaty protected by the EU and claim 100% DUP-Westminster rule for NI. Usurping power by rejecting all EU deals that protect the Peace Treaty and Power-Sharing Governance of NI. While simultaneously rejecting the democratic vote by NI population (Unionist + Republican) to remain in the EU. The DUP are PUD - persistent underminers of democracy.
Lord Meme
Lord Meme Pred 7 urami
Switzerland is afraid of marriage
Ray G
Ray G Pred 7 urami
Never ceases to amaze me how gullible jo public is
Scott Essery
Scott Essery Pred 7 urami
but ukip said it would be easy
Fuzz Labrador
Fuzz Labrador Pred 8 urami
The problem with democracy is when 51% of the people vote that everyone should shoot his/hers own leg off...
Herbert von Zinderneuf
Fine video - but why have you ignored the last step in the graphic? Canada.
ste lamo
ste lamo Pred uro
because slvid.net/video/video-J1Yv24cM2os.html
Nonamearisto
Nonamearisto Pred 16 urami
The EU has no more right to keep the UK in the EU than someone has the right to keep someone else at a party which they want to leave.
Ron Antonio
Ron Antonio Pred 16 urami
If the UK pulls out of the EU... who's next? Greece? Italy? Spain? Hungary?
Fuzz Labrador
Fuzz Labrador Pred 8 urami
Most likely no one. It requires a level of stupidity and arrogance which not many countries poses in combination.
Nic King
Nic King Pred 21 uro
Can someone just conquer everything already?
The Adventures of Mr Red Blob
You didn't explain the Canada/South-Korean option that was also on this infographic.
Luc Bourhis
Luc Bourhis Pred dnevom
Barnier superstar!
Graham Southern
Graham Southern Pred dnevom
Most of these 'deal-breakers' could have been negotiated but the EU never entered into real negotiations.
Emanuel D
Emanuel D Pred 7 urami
They can't. It is an intricate set of relations, if you suddenly allow one side to cherrypick, all the others want, hell breaks loose, the box of pandora opens. What you UK people have to understand: you. are. not. special. You are one of many, and have to play by the same rules as everyone else, you should not expect others to make an exception for you.
Dick Dastardly
Dick Dastardly Pred dnevom
You are forgetting the UK MP's who regularly lie to the UK people. They say Brexit means Brexit while doing their best to stay in the EU covertly. Welcome to the end of democracy in the UK. Which may have untold damages to the rest of the world.
uk m'dear
uk m'dear Pred dnevom
The vast majoirty of the 17.4milliom who voted leave wanted a "no-deal" brexit or WTO brexit, we are one of the largest exporters with the EU and second biggest financial contributer. The EU will come to is us to trade when we leave on WTO terms. The reason BREXIT is such a cluster fuck is the polictal class doesn't want to carry out the instruction of the people they govern.
Ralph Bernhard
Ralph Bernhard Pred dnevom
They say that history is in the headlines. So why BREXIT? Because: One war in the ME is enough. It seems as if there are forces behind Trump, which are setting the stage for another war here... Here are the signs for war: 1) North Korea: make peace, in order to free forces and avoid 'bandwagon effect' (Kim allying with Moscow, via the common border) 2) UN: disgrace the UN with a smear campaign (neutral observer, as opposed to...ahem..."embedded journalists") 3) set up Riyad as a US lapdog, to carry out a 'false flag' in the Gulf (read, I mean really READ the headlines) 4) EU: chisel away at the unity of the EU, already with good results in Poland and GB (Brexit as "divide and rule" tool, for a two front war scenario for Russia, and lighting rods for Russian nukes) 5) Palestinian /Israeli conflict: get Saudi Arabia to "sign away" (sacrifice) the Palestinian cause (free the back of this "smiling prince" aka Washington's lapdog, to attack Iran) Remember what Putin said. "You shall not pass". My advice, unless we wish to argue about "who started it" on clay tablets in the near future, is to heed that warning...
Vivian Astridge
Vivian Astridge Pred dnevom
This is the very first time that anyone has taken the trouble to offer the most lucid explanation of the very core of the problem and a more lucid explanation could not exist. Congratulations for the total brilliance of your idea and the totally excellent presentation. This video must be made obligatory viewing for every single person and even in schools, even in kindergarten , it is so totally perfect in fulfilling the objective. Congratulations again and again.
Sir Snowy
Sir Snowy Pred dnevom
Brexit: Like leaving your wife, only she won't let you out of the house... "Misery" style. Then, when you do manage to get half way out and demand your clothes, you are told "No!", if you want to leave, leave with nothing. ...But hold on a minute, when we 1st met we didn't get on well, but then I ended up saving your life.. twice! From the new guy you're sleeping with (I'm looking at you Axis powers!). I say Nuke the EU from a high orbit!
Ludvig
Ludvig Pred dnevom
EU is such a shit
Rob Setting
Rob Setting Pred dnevom
Why can't they have another relationship that isn't on a model they have with another country
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
They can. Show them one way.
Craig Spence CS/Solo
EU : do you want to leave ? People of the UK : YES Politicians of the UK : No EU : Do you want to leave with a Deal ? People of UK : Leave with no deal Politicians of UK : Leave with deal
divyanthj
divyanthj Pred dnevom
So, UK is like that girlfriend who wants the keys to your house but won't sleep in it, clean up the mess or pay the bills but wants to decide where the couch goes or what curtains you should have right?
mistep444
mistep444 Pred dnevom
Well, in fact the key issue for the UK is maintaining somehow a free goods and people movement between Rep. of Ireland and Northern Irealand, which can be easily done upon the article 24th of the WTO Treaty. The EU doeasn't want to make it so easy, so they're menacing the uK by establishing the border and customs posts on the Irish border. In fact UK is a huge financial contributor to the EU and they want to keep it that way as long as possible.
ste lamo
ste lamo Pred uro
slvid.net/video/video-J1Yv24cM2os.html
Socks With Sandals
Socks With Sandals Pred dnevom
South Korea, Japan, USA and Canada are doing well. I bought this Korean phone in Britain no problem. Let's be like them. NOW FFS.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
*after long and hard negotiations and based on WTO rules first.
Glen Hopkins
Glen Hopkins Pred dnevom
Simple. We do not want to be europes shit dumping fuck hole. That's what they think of us brits. Island nation alone. Mixed bag of fuckwits. Forest people in the sod. All the wrong uns and hooligans. Drug dependant wasters and socially bankrupt layabouts. No more no more. How wrong you elite Europeans were. We sit in a place where there is abundance and we only need to be freed from the shackles of your loathsome dependable mistake to awaken our spirit and rise again. Long live Britain and all of its isles. Long live England. Long live Scotland. Long live Wales. Long live Ireland.
MOOSEDOWNUNDER
MOOSEDOWNUNDER Pred dnevom
Britain under May has not tried to leave the EU, not at all. It's all farce.
Ivrish con-Abarth
Ivrish con-Abarth Pred dnevom
It´s the thing, both sides play towards the same goal! Which is to enslave UK under EU forever. Switzerland makes it wealth by leeching other nations out of their wealth through their banking system. If EU gets it way, we´ll be looking at Mediterranean Union, which will remove the pretending of being democracy by EU. So, this negotiation by the UK side is ALL done by the most pro-EU corrupt politicians ever. No wonder it´s a mess.
Mario B
Mario B Pred dnevom
The anger of many viewers is understandable, despite efforts of this very good video trying to bring clarity in. A bit of facts and history may further help in the understanding: UK applied for membership since 1961 being initially opposed by France . After applying again the UK got its membership in 1973. Pure free will. Nobody forced the UK to do it. From “The poor man of Europe” of the 70’s, UK managed to take advantage of EU’s membership turning into 2nd largest economy of the block and the fasted growing in recent history. Well, the UK did not manage well many processes, allowing for deindustrialization in many sectors which lead to increased powerty and highest levels of inequality in the EU besides creation of wealth and significant fortunes. But this was own making. This was not decided in Brussels. Then new right wing politicians like Farage took the dissatisfaction as an opportunity starting to blame the “Eurocrats in Brussels” and leading a push in favor of crashing out of the block. Farage repeated so many time his mantra of “taking back control and sovereignty” that it started to be assumed as real by ignorant people and reinforced by interested politicians like those of the ERG. Not clear if chicken or egg, this push started to be (or already was) supported by Russian forces, American forces, British and international capitalists (aiming at buying destroyed companies to sell them later) so that during the referendum, with the aid of well paid Cambridge Analytica, forces working against the UK managed to get 51,5% of the votes. Although this result was a clear indication of a profoundly divided country, it was turned into “the democratic will of the people” and repeatedly used as an argument to dampen that this result was an clear expression of a deep and lasting division. Politicians of both sides of the interests never discussed about the truth with their constituents (as the video above correctly tries to make), they just wanted to herd their herds on basis of patter and mantras, even because the underlying truth (also that of the video) was never easy to understand. Still today after almost three years there is no clear understanding. And without clarity about the underlying truth, it is difficult to get politicians aligned. And they don't want it. All they want is taking advantage, regardless their side. There are no good people here. However, Britain has many experts who could have helped to come to terms with Brexit, like Sir Ivan Rogers who was fried by T. May until resignation. But you have also leavers like Dr. Richard North of the Leave alliance, columnist Booker and many others. But they all were eliminated of the decision circuit as professional politicians want to exclusively hold control of the process in their own interest. Never believe in fairy tales nor easy to swallow political mantras! Think with the brain, not with the liver! Turn to real experts who really know what they are talking about.
Griz
Griz Pred dnevom
What world do you live in mate, because it clearly isn't the same one the rest of us are living in.
Artistic Endeavors
Artistic Endeavors Pred dnevom
What do you get when a queen has too many fake crowns? Brexit!
Brian Anderson
Brian Anderson Pred dnevom
Fake all.
Howard the Alien
Howard the Alien Pred 2 dnevi
Eu: are you leaving? Uk: yes but no
1chish
1chish Pred 2 dnevi
You left out the key aspect - A Free Trade Deal with the EU and the UK. Its what the EU has done with Canada, Japan and South Korea and they were all nowhere near as aligned as the UK currently is. What you also didn't explain is WHY the UK established its red lines / deal breakers. The vote was for return of UK Sovereignty and all that entails. Its what every country outside the EU enjoys. Canada or Japan don't subsume lawmaking to Brussels or judicial oversight to the ECJ or have to allow millions of EU citizens into their lands so why should anyone else? There is this preconception created by two decades of EU propaganda that the EU is never wrong and the UK therefore must be. We are not. We were never asked if we wanted to join the EU and when we were asked 24 years later we said 'No Thanks'. Really simple. (And yes I do know we (me included) voted to remain in the then EEC in '75) It is the EU that created the sequential negotiations (contrary to Article 50) where money had to be agreed before citizens rights and with very little effort put into the future relationship. We cannot even agree a trade deal with the EU until AFTER we leave! That is EU Law so not the UK's fault. But sadly we in the UK are in the grip of a Remain minded Parliament that is doing all it can to defy the electorate that a) voted to leave and then b) voted those same MPs into power on manifestos that promised to deliver Brexit. It is a constitutional crisis by any measure and as the PM said yesterday it is now the people vs Parliament and I know who will win.
1chish
1chish Pred dnevom
+Sharif Ela The EU was an unnecessary creation by the political class for their own ends. Almost like a solution looking for a problem. The ambition after WWII was to use mutual trade as the best means to secure peace in Europe after WWII. First we had the steel and coal deal under the Treaty of Paris in '51 which then became the EEC under the Treaty of Rome in '57. The UK joined the EEC and 8 other similar countries, I am very sure that had the EEC been left as it was and just added the 4 more countries they did none of this would have happened. The EEC gave us customs free borders, freedom of movement but it was about 30,000 a year in the UK and there was no subsuming of laws and courts to a foreign power. The EU has successfully undone much of the good work done by the EEC and created a political monstrosity that has to feed itself or die. Hopefully Brexit (if UK MPs have the balls) will be the first part of the starvation of the EU but that will be an added bonus to me. I just want my country back.
Sharif Ela
Sharif Ela Pred dnevom
A sensible response. I’m mindful to say that if the EU is such a wonderful organisation, why is it so dogmatic about many of its founding principles that belong in a bygone age.
SmallFries01
SmallFries01 Pred 2 dnevi
I think this is upside down. These aren't the UKs deal beakers, these are the EUs deal breakers. The EU has no interest in allowing the UK to simply walk away.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
Nope.
SirAntoniousBlock
SirAntoniousBlock Pred 2 dnevi
Canada: Some of them speak French- Dealbreaker. Sth Korea: Not white- Dealbreaker.
SirAntoniousBlock
SirAntoniousBlock Pred dnevom
+Shawn Javery Errr did you watch the video? They were discussing what kind of deal the UK could strike with the EU as regarding deals that other countries have struck with the EU. My point is that none would make them happy.
Shawn Javery
Shawn Javery Pred dnevom
You are ignoring that the EU isn't just a trade union, it's also a response to decades of instability in Europe. It doesn't make sense for a non-european country to join. At least not one physically connected to the region
Sorin Silaghi
Sorin Silaghi Pred 2 dnevi
So what you're saying is that the EU doesn't need to compromise at all? I don't think that's a negotiation.
k
k Pred 3 urami
I'm genuinely curious to know what you would like a post-Brexit EU-UK-relationship to look like. If Freedom of Movement is a red line for the UK, there are pretty much only Turkey-Style (no independent trade policy) and Canada-Style (trade agreements) left as possible relations.
Matt OToole
Matt OToole Pred 2 dnevi
The fact that Barnier and his team had to produce this slide and present it to the British team speaks volumes about how knowledgeable our politicians are. David Davis turned up to the first meeting and didn't bother bring even so much as a pen and paper. Google it.
Kenneth Flaming
Kenneth Flaming Pred 2 dnevi
drink everytime he says dealbreaker
George Andrews
George Andrews Pred 2 dnevi
I guess Britain wanting to leave the European Union is nothing like Ireland wanting to leave the British empire for the last 800 years? Hypocrites....
Red Rooster
Red Rooster Pred 2 dnevi
Those of us who read the treaties, knew this BEFORE the referendum, and when we voted Leave, this is EXACTLY what we want and Voted for, the ONLY option that is actually leaving. My questions are:- 1. HOW could anyone in Government NOT know this from Day1? 2. IF anyone did, WHY did they not make this very publicly known?
Broken Physics
Broken Physics Pred dnevom
You are a small minority, though. Most people who voted to leave didn't know shit, except that some influential people told them that the EU is evil and they're better off without it. The government knew of the problem, didn't want to leave and expected the population to know and vote "remain", too. They lost that gamble. Basically, the government sees a river, wants to jump over it, but fails and lands face-first in the water. Now they're struggling to stay afloat. Meanwhile people who knew water is wet and wanted in the river anyway (you) say "should have built a boat", those who knew and didn't want in, say "shouldn't have jumped" and those who were clueless are just angry they're suddenly wet because nobody told them water is wet.
xfire7
xfire7 Pred 2 dnevi
I don`t understand . U.K. voted to leave . Its clear . Leave . Its not about a deal. Leave. However if the E.U. wanted to come up with a special relationship , yea that's o.k. too , but if not spite your own faces losers we stop buying your goods , bravo.
Li Hua
Li Hua Pred 2 dnevi
You forgot FTA like Canada and South Korea though.
Li Hua
Li Hua Pred dnevom
+Broken Physics exactly, the eu didnt forget it, cgp grey did. Or did you hear him mention it? Of course FTA means border on Ireland. If you dont want one you move left, at least to Switzerland. Basic logic
Broken Physics
Broken Physics Pred dnevom
They're right there, with a big green checkmark, just left of the no-deal line. That's what the EU wants to do, given Britains position. The main problem is - how to handle the Irish border.
chonnerone
chonnerone Pred 2 dnevi
Great video. I voted Leave - fuck the EU!
The Poonisher
The Poonisher Pred 2 dnevi
trying to leave the EU is like trying to cancel an Audible subscription
Alexander Laurie Birchley
A perfect illustration as to why the UK government's negotiating strategy was basically a load of stupid and silly wishful thinking and really amplifies why all this nonsense should have not begun in the first place. We should have accepted our situation and planned a WTO - no deal strategy from the start.
Sean Hartnett
Sean Hartnett Pred 3 dnevi
This is because the British public see leaving the E.U. is more problems that it is worth. Scotland is threatening to leave the UK and Northern Ireland is saying they want to leave as well. If for example, brexit, requires a breakup of the UK, that will be unacceptable. I don’t think any PM would want to be the prime minister who broke up the UK.
Sean Hartnett
Sean Hartnett Pred 3 dnevi
My prediction is a hung parliament. Leading to a crisis. Theresa may and the Conservative party will have problems. James corbyn and the labor party who used to be pro- brexit and is now anti- brexit. I believe it will lead to a second referendum, which the stay in the E.U. will win.
Artistic Endeavors
Artistic Endeavors Pred dnevom
Only the Ukraine has a hung Parliament 😂😂😂😂😂😂
greg cooke gregy
greg cooke gregy Pred 3 dnevi
You said it right there , Capitol , which most people in the UK don't have much of , through heavy tax on everything , it's the out of touch arseholes in the government and there associates at the top with there sweet deals that are gonna get effed up and possibly taxed , that's why there dragging there feet, the British public have been told to Suck it for years by the conservative party and now there reeling with anger now the shoes on the other foot , that is what's going on.
John G
John G Pred 3 dnevi
Hahaha frustrated Brits... Brits can't get what they want and now they throw with shit on EU
Griz
Griz Pred dnevom
You mean the EU that expanded too quickly and is showing the signs for it? You mean the EU that has become so bureaucratic that it barely functions beyond a snails pace? You mean the EU that overlooks the many MANY infringements that its eastern nations make simply to be larger? You mean the EU that seems to have completely forgotten where the majority of its money is currently held? Yeah, that EU...
no no
no no Pred 3 dnevi
The EU is an awful bureaucratic oligarchy that the UK gets no benefit from beyond trade and it isn't worth being strong armed into joining the EU for anyway. Having said that, the fact that they can't exit the EU is entirely the UKs fault. It should've been done within a fortnight of the decision to trigger article 50 was made. Just a "we're out" mic drop hard brexit and done. Sort everything else out on the fly. The reason it hasn't been done is because the UK has spineless incompetent politicians that never thought that they'd ever be called on to actually govern the country. They thought the EU would continue to do that for them. The result of the referendum came as a complete shock to them and they've been blithering ever since.
Andy Wright
Andy Wright Pred 3 dnevi
When the EU was just a trade organisation, things were OK, but it grew into all sorts of other areas, and it's rubbish. Why are the current options the only ones available? Probably because the EU has presumed so much power. If they don't want to trade favourably with the 5th largest economy in the world, more fool them.
allyp 1972
allyp 1972 Pred 3 dnevi
EU: do u want to leave? UK: yes EU: that puts us £39B out of pocket? UK: well we did take on a loan to rebuild UK & Europe after WW2 & not had a cent off u for it? EU: wtf has that got to do with us? UK: £3.62TR (or£3620M in metric) that Germany should have paid us but was written off in 1990 is a good reason to play nicely EU: far right lager drinking bastards!
mikepodella
mikepodella Pred 3 dnevi
Uh, no comment on Canada and South Korea?
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
+brt john this.
brt john
brt john Pred dnevom
Those are Free Trade agreements that took several years to be negotiated, the EU/UK right now are fighting over the withdraw agreement, long way to go before they can start fighting over a trade agreement.
G G
G G Pred 3 dnevi
Switzerland are not signing any future agreements with the EU!
sibience
sibience Pred 3 dnevi
In short having your cake and eating it.
Falo
Falo Pred 3 dnevi
EU: Are you staying or leaving UK: Ooorrddaahhh oordahh!
Peter Hruska
Peter Hruska Pred 3 dnevi
fun thing is that the UK had already carved out the best deal of any EU member for themselves, and that wasn't enough.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
+93 Octane Because the other deals were quite good, depending on what you are targeting.
93 Octane
93 Octane Pred 2 dnevi
And considering how awful that deal really was, you have to wonder why the other states are selling themselves down the river to Brussels.
Arab Myself
Arab Myself Pred 3 dnevi
NO DEAL! BREXIT NOW!
Sandwich
Sandwich Pred 3 urami
are you okay?
Arab Myself
Arab Myself Pred dnevom
out loud
Arab Myself
Arab Myself Pred dnevom
say my name
Arab Myself
Arab Myself Pred dnevom
+Kernels lmao
Kernels
Kernels Pred dnevom
Could you care to explain your username first?
Jonathan Warner
Jonathan Warner Pred 3 dnevi
A functional analysis of the EU reveals that the "core" of the EU is not actually full membership, but the Single Market. Why? Because by some kind of alchemy, people are smuggled into a free trade agreement as though they are the equivalent of goods, services and capital - i.e. in the concept of "Freedom of Movement," which creates a de facto European Citizenship in any nation that signs up to it, and that includes the EEA / EFTA.
Bent Overgaard
Bent Overgaard Pred 3 dnevi
Lack representation not only in parliament, but more important in the Council.
Bent Overgaard
Bent Overgaard Pred 3 dnevi
Not free movement of people, but free movement of labour.
A i
A i Pred 3 dnevi
Brainwashed education to make us fools...that is the reward for our love, telling us that democracy is a dove?
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
Where the heck is democracy in that video a problem? Even democracy is bound to logic.
t peg
t peg Pred 3 dnevi
uk…. yes but no but yes but no …. Cameron lef,t he knew it couldn’t work but offered it for election purposes a perfect example of party over country ….
Airstrip One
Airstrip One Pred 3 dnevi
Of course what the EU should do is apply no restrictions or regulations upon the UK and just trade with the UK tariff free. There, easy, I fixed it for you.
Airstrip One
Airstrip One Pred 2 dnevi
23+alen40to The two economies, both larger than the UK's are in serious trouble. Germany is likely to slip into recession and France is expected to be overtaken by the UK shortly. The trade surplus will most certainly disappear once the UK is able to buy from the world under WTO terms, especially if the EU wishes to start a trade war by applying tariffs which the UK would no doubt respond to. The EU has everything to lose on this argument and you are deluding yourself if you think otherwise. Just in time can and is managed from shipment from around the world, including China. North Africa can supply perishables. Your head is in the sand if you think otherwise. So no, the EU loses this one and therefore it's not in it's interests to start a trade war. EU 0 UK 1. What the 27 countries need is not important. What Germany and France need, is. They need the UK's money as a net contributor to the EU. Without it, they will have to make up the shortfall. Disastrous for them and they know it, especially as both now have perilous economies. Here's that cuckoo clock for you and thanks for the good price you paid for it. EU 0 UK 2. A falling pound (and let's be honest, it's not dropping like a sack, that's a massive exaggeration and you know it), is good for the indigenous economy and will encourage home growth. Money remaining in the UK and job creation within the UK. EU 0 UK 3. The Irish border can be manned by electronic systems which already exist, look at Switzerland for example. This is a hollow point scoring argument, easily debunked. I'm shocked you would try and raise such a non argument which can be and is so easily dismissed. Dyson has increased their workforce in the UK recently and have moved their headquarters overseas. To Asia. Nothing to do with Brexit. Nissan and Panasonic moved because of a free trade deal signed between the EU and Japan, meaning they no longer need manufacture within the EU. Nothing to do with Brexit. A spokesman for JLR said the Slovakian plant had been developed over several years to manufacture the Land Rover Discovery and the latest move was, yep, you guessed it, nothing to do with Brexit. The remaining Sollihull plant is to be redeveloped to manufacture electric vehicles. I don't recall Airbus has made any announcement other than throwing their rattle out of the pram. I just googled it, nope, just talk, no definitive plans to move production out of the UK. Bank of America moves 100 jobs to Ireland due to Brexit. Oh dear, never mind. Will the sky fall down because of this? So in all your examples, most are false and outright lies on your part and I can find just 100 bankster job losses. Whooppee fucking do. You have no argument here mate, just outright lies and conjecture. EU 0 UK 4. Yep, The EU needs the UK and boy are they going to suffer if they don't cooperate. The job losses in the German banking system as Deutsche Bank crashes and in the Munich auto industry will soon bring the EU grovelling. The UK exit from the EU provides the UK with global opportunities with almost no downside. Over the next ten years, the UK economy will boom.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 3 dnevi
+Airstrip One Funny, especially considering that the EU is 500 million people and 27 countries (two of which have bigger economies than the UK). The trade surplus simply means that your economy is import-based. The surplus won't disappear, because the EU is simply the only place that most of the things the UK imports can be procured from. Because the goods are either perishable and can't be shipped from the other side of the world or because it need just in time delivery, where if someone orders something today it needs to be delivered tomorrow. Do you think this would be possible with China? Hell no. The import surplus would remain the same, but the EU would have to place tariffs on UK exports to the EU, which would make the UK manufacturers uncompettive in the EU... If you trully believed that a bloc of 27 countries would need one country more than that country needs the 27, then I have a clock to sell you... The UK's pound is dropping like a sack of flour (terrible for an import economy, BoE was trying to keep it very expensive all these years because it was beneficial). The border in Ireland would have to be erected even though there are still morons that think it won't be necesarry to man that border, just because it's easier... Big multinational companies like Airbus, Dyson, Panasonic, Nissan, Jaguar Land Rover, Bank of America and many others are either relocating to the EU or have already relocated and thousands of jobs have already been lost.. But please, keep thinking that the EU needs you so much. And when in 9 days they let you crash out with no deal, you are going to continue saying that they need you more..
Airstrip One
Airstrip One Pred 3 dnevi
+alen40to because the UK imports more from the EU then vice versa. It's in their interests not to start a trade war with the UK. Especially considering the German banking system is on the verge of collapse, they're going to need the financial muscle of the city of London soon. It's not the time for the EU to start making an enemy of the UK, or indeed, even just try and take it on in a trade war. It'll end very badly for the EU.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 3 dnevi
Why?
Oroberus
Oroberus Pred 3 dnevi
Well, it's even way more simple than that. Uk wants all the benefits of being in the EU without the duties connected to them. It's pretty much the same if a citizen of any given states want's to be protected by the laws of the state and also wants to use it's infrastructure, while demanding to be not being directable by said laws and also don't want to pay taxes to upkeep the infrastructure. And the UK wants this completely ignoring that they already had a special deal with way less duties. It's the single most baffeling case of r/EntitledPeople combined with r/ThatHappened
Oroberus
Oroberus Pred 2 dnevi
+Inkyminkyzizwoz Yeah I know, my former post wasn't ment as to say that Brexiteers are right wingers, just to point out that there are some quite similar ideas of benefit without duty all over the world and just happen to usually attract radical rights in the cases of US and Germany.
Inkyminkyzizwoz
Inkyminkyzizwoz Pred 2 dnevi
+Oroberus Actually, Brexit supporters come from all over the political spectrum and there are some people that want out because they view the EU as too capitalistic
Oroberus
Oroberus Pred 2 dnevi
+wppb50 Not only them, check for 'Souvereign Citizens' (in the US) and 'Reichsbürger' (in germany) are a whole movements of people, that think the state owes them while they don't have to do anything for it and civil duties won't apply to them. Usually you find them in the far right/radical right/extremist right of the policitcal spectrum, just like the whole Brexit stuff was made up by the right wing of the UK political spectrum and then heaveily marketed.
wppb50
wppb50 Pred 2 dnevi
"It's pretty much the same if a citizen of any given states want's to be protected by the laws of the state and also wants to use it's infrastructure, while demanding to be not being directable by said laws and also don't want to pay taxes to upkeep the infrastructure." You've just described a fair chunk of my extended family...
Oroberus
Oroberus Pred 3 dnevi
+Inkyminkyzizwoz Typo, thanks, changed
Joe Sheppard
Joe Sheppard Pred 3 dnevi
We could just tell the eu to do one as they did push there luck way too far. We budge and they dont means it is not a negotiation. Both need to stop with the chest puffing and think about the whole of europe. Imo
Blood
Blood Pred 3 dnevi
This is what happens when the UK votes Brexit but has a Remain government. It is also what happens when the EU makes absolutely zero concessions to us.
최규광
최규광 Pred 3 dnevi
i need translation...
Chisto Prosto
Chisto Prosto Pred 3 dnevi
This is by far the clearest explanation of brexit that I've seen so far.
secallen
secallen Pred 3 dnevi
We could have had a deal at step one -- if only the EU did not insist on free movement of people. Why is this principle so important to the EU?
Hunter Knight
Hunter Knight Pred 3 dnevi
This just makes me think that being a part of the EU means you give up your own nation's autonomy in every major way to a council of unelected officials who can destroy your economy if you don't do what they say. I think I'd stick with the World Trade Organization.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 3 dnevi
We elect EU officials every few years, and the EU won't be the one destroying the UK's economy, the UK would be doing that itself. The EU didn't vote the UK out of the market, the UK did that to itself. Why should the EU give preferential treatment to a third country (the UK in 10 days) ? Wouldn't that make the EU pointless?
Mark
Mark Pred 3 dnevi
The UK is a mess that doesn't know what it wants.
Charles Hamilton
Charles Hamilton Pred 3 dnevi
T-minus 10 days. Bercow has told May to fuck off. May, rebuffed, wants up to two more (squandered) years to get her shit together. Meanwhile, the EU be like, “Hold my beer.”
IfReborn
IfReborn Pred 3 dnevi
wHY CAnt they have their own orbit. Why do they need to be put in a box.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
And what would that look like?
Manannan anam
Manannan anam Pred 3 dnevi
Or.. the EU can make a deal (new orbit) with the UK specific to the UK.. like the EU did with switzerland and Turkey... but heeeeey, that's putting some of the onus on the EU and we can't have that.
Inquisitive Precursor
Who's afraid of the WTO?!
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
since WTO rules are quite harsh, i'd be afraid, especially if i'd be british
Pana po’o
Pana po’o Pred 3 dnevi
Next time Germany starts a war and invades France, Italy (all of Europe) the UK will stay out of it.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 2 dnevi
+Pana po’o Not if the UK's GDP starts shrinking. Nobody would want to follow a country whose economy starts declining after leaving the EU..
Pana po’o
Pana po’o Pred 2 dnevi
+alen40to If the UK leaves then the rest of the EU is doomed within 10 years as others follow etc.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 3 dnevi
+Pana po’o No i think the UK owes a debt of gratitude to the EU because it's been having a great deal for years inside (rebates and getting to choose which rules to follow and which ones to just ignore and so on), so if anything I think the EU should give the UK no deal and let them crash. They've already showed that their politicians are incompetent (2-3 years of that, so it's kind of hard to deny). And with their referendum they've showed that they do not belong or do not appreciate the secuirity and stability that the EU provides. So they are always going to be a big obstacle in the way of the EU if they remain aligned with it. So might as well cut the cord and let them dangle in the air. If anything it would disuade euro-sceptics inside the EU, because if the UK economy starts shrinking then nobody would be advocating leaving the EU anymore... And if you are talking about WW2 (that kind of gratitude), then you are completely out of touch... I won't even address that. Live in historical delusion all you want, but nobody owes you shit..
Pana po’o
Pana po’o Pred 3 dnevi
I'm trying to say don't you think Europe owes a debt of gratitude to the UK, so just allow the UK to leave with whatever deal it wants.
alen40to
alen40to Pred 3 dnevi
That's the point of the EU, to stop a war between the members from happening. Have you seen a war happen between member states since the EU was established?
KDH
KDH Pred 3 dnevi
"Vice versa" not "visa versa"
Nemo Says
Nemo Says Pred 3 dnevi
You realise the UK people want to leave but the political elites refuse to.
Nemo Says
Nemo Says Pred dnevom
+RomanII1997 - You're obviously not British. The political elites are SELECTED and then ELECTED on party policy, this lot have all gone against their manifesto's, they were returned to that place with a mandate to take the UK out of the EU and they are refusing to carry that out, they are behaving like dictators and despots not representatives and it's the people that are Sovereign we just LEND that to parliament.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
"the political elites" (tm) are votet into the parlament by..... "the UK People"(tm)
SeriouslyBroke
SeriouslyBroke Pred 3 dnevi
"To brexit" actually means in german now "saying that you leave but u don't" U don't have to guys, just sayin
Cal97g
Cal97g Pred 3 dnevi
Yes we want no deal
neil e
neil e Pred 3 dnevi
500 MPs are the problem.... wanting to remain and not representing their constituents! Watch this space when they want to be re-elected … my vote is going to someone who will represent the constituents...
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
wich, in a really surprising number of people, is remain.
neil e
neil e Pred 3 dnevi
Hallelujah! Can you see the light?
JJvH
JJvH Pred 3 dnevi
Funny how people keep talking about trade, whilst that is not the reason people voted Brexit. They voted because other things are broken and will not be fixed by the EU. To think the UK is the bad guy for wanting brexit. The EUs media, immigration policy and warmongering has been out of control for years. Which has led to terror attacks, grooming gangs, unjust wars, unjust censoring and propaganda. Its not like one country can change that for the better on their own. Therefore the only option left is to leave the EU entirely. EU should be remade with better rules imo.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
EU Warmongering? State now, EU has no army at all. State now, British Army is the biggest one in Europe (excluding russia, but we all tend to exclude russia) and is fighting with french army about whose is more engaged in war. even the - imho - overused German military is far less on it's feet. And we really have soldiers anywhere, wich is strange enough.
The Rockall Times
The Rockall Times Pred 3 dnevi
You're wrong that the UK wants a relationship. The UK is not a singular entity. It's not a woman in a Union Flag skirt wearing a crown, sipping tea. The majority of UK citizens voted to Leave, which means leave completely. The MPs however are attempting to thwart democracy by forcing us to be still in the EU but with no say in the politics (not that we really had any, but they used to politely pretend we had, while favouring Germany, and France to a lesser extent than Germany).
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
MP however have to consider Northern Ireland Situation
telemasca
telemasca Pred 3 dnevi
Cillit Bang Well I remember you had a lot to say since UK was literally bombarding every reform and consolidation effort and shouting about leaving EU since 70s. Just go already.
The Rockall Times
The Rockall Times Pred 3 dnevi
Are the EU and UK lesbians? You said they are having a break-up and portray the UK as a queen sipping tea, & the EU as a tutting woman arms-folded. (Quite accurate)
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
*including organisations as EU, UNO, NATO etcpp *even including stuff like FBI and shit.
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
Well, every country at CGP Grey is pictured as female.
IratePirate
IratePirate Pred 3 dnevi
More nonsensical bullshit. The EU is famous for its ability to compromise and flexibility to be able to create new bullshit half way houses.
Ser Davos
Ser Davos Pred 3 dnevi
0:53 the UK's dress flag is upside down, come on CGP Grey I know you just flipped it!
Cid Sapient
Cid Sapient Pred 3 dnevi
the problem is ppl are confusing speculations with facts which is creating misinformation both sides are lying to get what they want and thats why it seems like the UK doesnt know what it wants the UK ppl that are most affected by EU laws know exactly what they want and the majority of them are leave voters
Cid Sapient
Cid Sapient Pred dnevom
​+RomanII1997 no the ppl living in rural areas most affected by the globalization of the EU states its the same all over the world in any post industrial country
RomanII1997
RomanII1997 Pred dnevom
You mean bankers?
Oid Hipson
Oid Hipson Pred 3 dnevi
It's still weird that loads of politicians in the UK are yelling that they can't come back on the referendum outcome. If no one every had the chance to reconcider choices we all had a huge problem. But apparently that's the way the UK rolls... No more selling items, divorces, abortions, etc etc you are stuck with your choices ;)
SuicidelG
SuicidelG Pred 3 dnevi
Its sad that the UK got the right idea in that the EU is bad but for the wrong reasons. The EU is essentially just Industrial colonialism run by German industrialists.
George Szweden
George Szweden Pred 3 dnevi
Did Brexit really happen? UK: Wel yes but actually no.
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